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Post by ducks on Jul 21, 2008 15:16:59 GMT -5
Boucher is easily the biggest piece of this deal. He's an elite dman, whereas florida gets three 2nd - 3rd dmen. Plus wharrener is a pretty good defenseman as well. I'd say this is a very fair deal.
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Post by Jackets Oilers on Jul 21, 2008 15:21:31 GMT -5
Could be...
but as long as all the facts are on the table.
Boucher scored 19 goals and 16 goals in the last 3 years. was injured last year. Underrated two way guy
Peter Harrold is a young d-man that is a front runner for time in LA. Hes offensive and put up sterling AHL stats. Could be tried on the PP
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McLaren and Hannan - I realize they are both defensive D-men but they got only 32 point between them last year
Cory Murphy was scratched at the end of last season after being a little bit dissapointing. has one chance left
I dont mean to say i lost the deal but since FLA is a veteran GM, im sure hes looked at the same facts
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Post by Panthers and Jets on Jul 21, 2008 15:50:40 GMT -5
Could be... but as long as all the facts are on the table. Boucher scored 19 goals and 16 goals in the last 3 years. was injured last year. Underrated two way guy Peter Harrold is a young d-man that is a front runner for time in LA. Hes offensive and put up sterling AHL stats. Could be tried on the PP ---- McLaren and Hannan - I realize they are both defensive D-men but they got only 32 point between them last year Cory Murphy was scratched at the end of last season after being a little bit dissapointing. has one chance left I dont mean to say i lost the deal but since FLA is a veteran GM, im sure hes looked at the same factshaha I do mean to say you lost the deal mwa hah aha but seriusly I agree with everything you said and I needed to get rid of some dmen, but I am lookin good for this season Boucher Campbell Roszival Lydman Gilbert Ward  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2008 23:26:39 GMT -5
McLaren gets decent ratings but Hannan doesn't. I prefer Florida's side.
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Post by Panthers and Jets on Jul 22, 2008 14:29:38 GMT -5
now that the deal has been approved i will explain my reasoning.
Boucher paired with Campbell gives me a legit top pairing, couple that with improved ratings for Biron as well as a very solid 2nd and 3rd pairing will vastly improve my goals against as well as offensive contributions from the backend.
McClaren is a big guy but he is very slow and ended up being a healthy scratch late last year and into the playoffs. Im assuming that will again be the case this year unless he is traded. Hannan is a decent defender but I honestly prefer Aaron Ward to him. Cory Murphy was playing great last year until his shoulder injury and didnt put up many points after his return. Like Beej said, he has one more shot and I really dont know how he is going to fit into Floridas crowded blueline.
Harrold is going to end up being a big peice of this trade down the line. I now Boucher is not going to keep playing for very much longer, but Harrold should be an NHL dman for the next 10 years. He is a great skater and an overall very smart player. I would expect 30-40 points out of him this year QBing LAs powerplay
Warrener was a throw in who could play for me in a pinch.
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Post by Wild Sabre GM on Jul 23, 2008 7:56:41 GMT -5
OK, I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks this way or not and if so, I might make myself look bad or have some enemies but. . . I know each GM has the right to rebuild, load up on veterans, do whatever they want but shouldn't each team at least have enough guys to field a roster of guys to play on the ice. I think CGY has maybe 10-12 guys that actually have a rating and the rest are 55's that he has had to call up to fill out his roster. Obviously CGY knows what he is doing and with all these draft picks "should" have a very nice young team in 3 years or so if all these picks work out.
It's one thing to have a few guys here and there that are 55's just to round out your roster but when almost one half are 55's and a lot of other rated players aren't really in the NHL either, it just seems a bit odd/strange to me. Not saying we need to implement any kind of rule or anything, just curious to hear what other people think about this strategy.
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Post by Jackets Oilers on Jul 23, 2008 8:59:13 GMT -5
I agree with the salary cap floor but only if our salary figures made any sense. No offense, but the DVHL salaries never made any sense. A team could get Rob Lang ($8,000,000/year) and still get over the salary floor and fill out the rest of the roster with a bunch of Dunce Caps
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2008 9:40:56 GMT -5
I could lose for 20 straight years and I wouldn't care. I have far more fun rebuilding than making it to the 1, 2nd or 3rd round every year. This league is about having fun. Go ahead and make a league floor, I don't care- It's not going to stop me from doing what I enjoy. The funny part is I had a deal line up with Blue Jackets which was similar to this one and I guarantee there would be no talk of this if it was posted.
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Post by Wild Sabre GM on Jul 23, 2008 10:50:46 GMT -5
The salary cap floor is nice in theory but as we all know our salaries do not make sense especially when some players don't even have salaries and we "award" a salary based on rating. I know this league is about fun and rebuilding probably takes more effort than putting together a contender but just for the sake of actual sims/standings, when half of your prospects are 55's, it almost isn't even worth playing. Again I'm not saying we need to put a rule in place just curious to hear more how other GM's feel about this to see if we want to do something or leave it the way it is. I really don't care either way just some food for thought besides right now it's good for me to keep it the way it is since CGY is in my division and I play him a ton (as long as I win  ) |
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Post by devilsgm2 on Jul 23, 2008 10:53:29 GMT -5
I think we should make the salaries for all the players in the league and then have a MAX and MIN cap.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2008 21:25:32 GMT -5
A entry level system for rookies and a calculated formula based on age, offensive and defensive ratings with some ratings such as SC and PA with more focus could really work.
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Post by PralinePHX on Jul 24, 2008 2:33:16 GMT -5
I'm seriously considering using the NHL player's NHLPA cap hit instead of an aribtary number assigned by the DVHL. Reasoning being DVHL uses a free agent system themselves, so they get some pretty ludicrous numbers as well (although not as crazy as the Streit deal). Either that or we just assign everyone in the league a salary based on ratings like Blues said, although I would not want age to factor in.
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Post by Kings and Devils on Jul 24, 2008 2:45:27 GMT -5
NHLPA sounds fair.
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Post by Jackets Oilers on Jul 24, 2008 7:08:58 GMT -5
I think some kind of arbitrary cap based on player ratings sounds more fair.
the reason the cap was instituted was simply to ensure there were no stacked teams beyond reason.
Chicago has the best team but its certainly within reason. Hes made a good team so he should be able to keep it. The ratings cap should be somewhat over what he has.
but anyways, thats just an opinion.
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Post by FlyersGM on Jul 24, 2008 7:40:58 GMT -5
Blues' idea is exactly what i had in mind.
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