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Post by FlyersGM on Jun 18, 2008 11:29:06 GMT -5
Post 'em here ...
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Post by Wild Sabre GM on Jun 18, 2008 11:32:56 GMT -5
Nice to see other GM's going after Leino. He's becoming fabian brunnstrom part 2 as I think at least 3 GM's have tried to claim him since I got him. Also glad to see I got Salmela, he could make NJ this year and could turn into my find of Toby Enstrom last year (who I regretfully traded  ) |
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Post by Jackets Oilers on Jun 18, 2008 11:38:43 GMT -5
im going to try to become waiver queen again
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Post by Wild Sabre GM on Jun 18, 2008 18:18:37 GMT -5
Claim of Tomas Plihal for NYI should be voided. He is on MTL roster, unless I missed something.
Claim of Tom Cavanaugh for NYR should be voided. He dropped Francis Guerette-Charland and that is a red-shirted player so he cannot be dropped yet. You will need to submit a waiver claim next time with roster player to be dropped if you want to get Cavanaugh. You can't choose a player now to be dropped.
Also did we figure out if Sami Kapanen can still be used in our league, I need to know for roster sizes. Also if Kapanen does need to be dropped then claim of Mike Brennan will be processed. If Kapanen can stay on your roster, then claim of Brennan can not be processed as you are over the roster limit.
Drop of Dalyn Flatt for CGY can not be processed. He is a red shirt and can't be dropped to waivers at this time. There will be a period after the entry draft where all 05 red shirt picks can be added to roster or dropped.
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Post by FlyersGM on Jun 18, 2008 18:46:13 GMT -5
CGY post moved from Waivers thread:Team: Add — DropCGY claims of K. Berglund, D, Ullstrom and Z. Fenwick all voided b/c players are draft eligible this year. Doesnt matter- they were draft eligible last year. Same with the whole david perron incident last year where dallas got to keep him. They are all overragers. gmhl2.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=trade&action=display&thread=1562TJ Galiardi 2nd round pick overrager- picked up on jun 18th 2007. Gotta stay consistent.
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Post by FlyersGM on Jun 18, 2008 18:46:41 GMT -5
That rule has been changed b/c of the David Perron incident: Change to the draft/waiver claim for *next* season. Let me know if this is worded too funky. Any 19 or 20 year old undrafted by the NHL and the GMHL in that player's draft year cannot be claimed in offseason waivers (in other words he is back in the draft). If such a player is claimed during the season off of waivers prior to the trade deadline, that player is the property of the claiming team and is no longer draft elligible. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 18:47:59 GMT -5
Alright thanks for the clear up.
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Post by FlyersGM on Jun 18, 2008 18:48:43 GMT -5
np ... and I took the posts off the waivers thread just to keep things tidy.
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Post by habsgm on Jun 18, 2008 18:54:42 GMT -5
Claim of Tomas Plihal for NYI should be voided. He is on MTL roster, unless I missed something. he is, also i thought there was no roster limit in the off-season and we just have to be under the cap and roster limit by the beginning of the pre-season or something, let me know if i'm wrong. I'm pretty sure I'm right. ;D |
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Post by Wild Sabre GM on Jun 18, 2008 19:14:02 GMT -5
I will clarify here so everyone is clear. The only way you can go over your roster in the off-season is for entry draft purposes, if you're not sure who to red-shirt or to add to your roster. If you are making a trade or waiver claim, you still have to remain under the 40 man limit. That is how it has always been done. The cap is more flexible since the salaries will be changing and we won't know until rerates come out.
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Post by habsgm on Jun 18, 2008 20:29:52 GMT -5
well that f's all my trades up!!! where is this in the rules.............
or a previous post?
I want to make sure that this isn't something we think we are sure about.... 'cause like i said this will f up all my deals then.....
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Post by Wild Sabre GM on Jun 18, 2008 22:25:00 GMT -5
Don't know if it's actually posted anywhere but it is what PHX and I have always done, so this is not something I'm making up. Part of the reasoning behind this is exactly for trades and waivers so that one team doesn't have more than 40 players and can't hoarde players that should be on waivers that another team may want to pick up. It's one thing to be over the limit due to the draft and not sure who will be red-shirted, it's another thing to go over the limit because you have 8 waiver claims or because you have 4 for 1 deal. Those players need to be dropped to waivers. If that's the case you can have 45 players and maybe trade those 5 players and stockpile draft picks, that is an abuse of our roster rule.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 2:01:48 GMT -5
Don't know if it's actually posted anywhere but it is what PHX and I have always done, so this is not something I'm making up. Part of the reasoning behind this is exactly for trades and waivers so that one team doesn't have more than 40 players and can't hoarde players that should be on waivers that another team may want to pick up. It's one thing to be over the limit due to the draft and not sure who will be red-shirted, it's another thing to go over the limit because you have 8 waiver claims or because you have 4 for 1 deal. Those players need to be dropped to waivers. If that's the case you can have 45 players and maybe trade those 5 players and stockpile draft picks, that is an abuse of our roster rule. Eventually though, they're going to have to drop them so I don't know how big of an advantage it is. Come Aug 29th they would have to drop the guys they were hoarding to the waiver draft anyways. I was always under the impression you have the summer to get your ducks in a row since obviously no one is playing (gms in the NHL don't worry about whos where), and then come end of aug you have to decide what you're going to do with pick, waivers ect. |
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Post by habsgm on Jun 19, 2008 9:26:25 GMT -5
most league, nfl for example, allow teams to be over the roster number during the off-season and then just be compliant before the regular season starts. our rule is kinda a stupid rule if you ask me. if the only reason why we are staying at the 40 man roster is b/c you don't want to have to monitor teams later, well then that's stupid. i think the off season is for making trades getting your roster ready and making decisions on which direction you want to go. i may trade all my guys and get 52 back, but ultimately i know that i have to get under the roster number by the regular season. this is an advantage and disadvantage for each gm. it allows you to move playa's for picks if needed and allows other teams to get guys they may not normally get under said circumstance. we need to either re-address this issue league wide or figure out a happy medium.................... so to say the roster limit for the off-season is say, 50, then by pre-season start it is 45, then by the regular season it is 40. i don't know, however this is a stupid rule that has no baring other than you and paul always doing it this way........... lame!
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Post by FlyersGM on Jun 19, 2008 9:31:04 GMT -5
The problem with not having a roster limit in place is GMs could claim 75 guys if they wanted to w/o repercussions. As for written rules .... Roster: Each team in the league will have 40 members on their roster. Any player not on a roster whose draft year has passed can be picked up via waivers with one exception (see below). If a two for one trade is made, the team acquiring two players must drop one to waivers in order to keep their team under forty. *snip* Red Shirt Players: In addition to the team's 40 man roster, team's have the option to "red shirt" three newly drafted players each draft. A "red shirt" does NOT count towards the team's roster limit. These players will retain "red shirt" status for three years or until one of the following takes place: *snip* As players lose red shirt status, a team's roster limit size will not increase. If a team's roster is at 40 and a player leaves red-shirt status (or any other event causes a team to be above 40), a GM will have three days to choose a player to drop from his team, or one player will be dropped *at random* from his list. The commissioner will give notice to any team above the 40-man limit and the three day timer will begin at that time. Pretty black and white that it says you have to be at 40. |
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